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Post by sherlock on Mar 4, 2011 22:31:18 GMT 10
Bossley Park High School's Talented Football Program applications are now available. Also the Primary School program trial applications also available. Contact the school on 9823 1033 or download from the website.
Any questions, comments or (more than likely) criticisms, throw them out there and I'll try my best...but won't try my best to sell you the program...I'm not a salesman, not a politician and if we have to entice or motivate your daughter or son to be at Bossley, then they may as well go and play lawn bowls as a coach-motivated player really isn't going to go far....in my opinion!
Good luck with your decisions and your trials as there are some really good school programs out there and your decision is always the best decision...
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Post by sherlock on Mar 13, 2011 10:53:19 GMT 10
Thanks people for all your enquiries...it is refreshing to hear parents are placing a huge emphasis on academic performance and code of conduct (discipline) when considering their choice of school that has a football program. I don't have to sell Bossley Park on either of these. The school speaks for itself.
Thanks again.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 20, 2011 19:34:09 GMT 10
Just a reminder that applications close on Friday 29th April for the Bossley Park High School GAT - Talented Football Program. We are endeavouring to attract female players to the program as we would like to reach equity within numbers involved in the program. There are enough good players out there to achieve this.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 20, 2011 19:35:02 GMT 10
In addition to any other information that I have posted, the Principal at Bossley has introduced an initiative that will start in Term 2. Students that are not performing academically will be involved in a study/tutor program that will take place Tuesday and Thursday afternoons after school in the school library.
This program is FREE to students and will be administered by Bossley teachers. This has come about from the Principal and his staff wanting not to be the best academic school in the SSW region, BUT to achieve Top 100 in the state. A program that is the consequence of a competitive Senior Executive that is supported by their teaching staff to administer the best education for their students.
If you require any further info, please pm me. Thanks for your time.
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Post by newkid on Apr 20, 2011 20:25:37 GMT 10
In addition to any other information that I have posted, the Principal at Bossley has introduced an initiative that will start in Term 2. Students that are not performing academically will be involved in a study/tutor program that will take place Tuesday and Thursday afternoons after school in the school library. This program is FREE to students and will be administered by Bossley teachers. This has come about from the Principal and his staff wanting not to be the best academic school in the SSW region, BUT to achieve Top 100 in the state. A program that is the consequence of a competitive Senior Executive that is supported by their teaching staff to administer the best education for their students. If you require any further info, please pm me. Thanks for your time. It's a real pitty that The Hills Sports couldn't get their act together in that department. So many kids left the football program and moved to other High schools that it's not funny.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 23, 2011 9:51:55 GMT 10
newkid,
Not all kids in a 'development' program are going to go on to make a professional living out of playing the game. However, there are other opportunities in football to make a living...hence stay in the game but just through a different avenue.
This is why two things are important in a student athlete's academic and football education:
1. Holistic approach to football education - study components such as media/journalism, sports science, sports medicine, sports administration, sports psychology, refereeing, sports coaching as well as the practical component of playing.
2. Monitored academic performance - it would be remiss of any program not to monitor it's athlete's academic performance. One must have discipline in all components of their life, not just a part of it.
This last point is best exampled by the negative media we see that surrounds NRL players such as Todd Carney. Carney's 'mentors' state that when he leaves the training field he gets bored and this leads to his drinking.
In my opinion, he can be disciplined on the field but off the field he does not know how to show self-discipline. That is, he is not educated enough or perhaps mentored enough, to be able to occupy his so-called downtime.
Surely with the money that he is reportedly on he could find a business interest that will set up his post-football life. His current 'business' interest will only see him p*ss his wealth up the wall and leave him with nothing post-football.
But what are his club's interests; I say getting him on the park so that it increases their chances of winning. Is it the club's responsibility to have an interest in his post-football career? Is this a question that is relevant to football development programs?
That is, are we locked into winning today and worry about the future tomorrow? Do some coaches in football reflect this attitude? The PL club coach that suggested that to a student selected in a schoolboy rep side recently that he shouldn't go to the NSWCHS Carnival or otherwise he may lose his position in 1st grade - he should look at his priorities - represents this approach.
This player HAD a great chance of going on to represent Australian Schoolboys who are touring the UK in January 2012. What an opportunity that this kid has missed out on because of advice that suits the club and not the player.
Not slagging the coach for his decision as it is his 'job' to get points for the club - not to look after the interests of the student athlete. Afterall, interests are different depending on which shoes you stand in.
I know that I have strayed from the topic, but my point is, when choosing a development program, don't look at winning and losing; moreso, look at what the program's philosophy is with regards academic and football education for the individual player.
A long winded thought.
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Post by newkid on Apr 26, 2011 1:15:33 GMT 10
know that I have strayed from the topic, but my point is, when choosing a development program, don't look at winning and losing; moreso, look at what the program's philosophy is with regards academic and football education for the individual player. Sherlock I didn't comment on the football program at all and I couldn't give a toss about winnig /loosing but I simply tried to say that the Hills Sports High is loosing alot of kids from their football program for various reasons but one of the main ones is because of their poor academic perfomance. I know that your school has more of a balance and the right philosophy but unfortunately a little too far for some. Read more: www.nswyouthfootball.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=720&page=2#ixzz1KY22HmPv
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Post by newguest on May 2, 2011 1:46:50 GMT 10
Sherlock, I wonder if all the kids are "gifted and talented" that are making the BPHP?
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Post by sherlock on May 8, 2011 21:53:44 GMT 10
NG... Sounds like a loaded question...so here's a truthful answer.
Yes...but you are assuming that they are ALL gifted and talented at PLAYING football...but the BPHS Curriculum for football is a holistic approach to football education. That is, we are committed to developing students in all aspect of football.
So, are some of the current students gifted and talented students of coaching, refereeing, journalism/media, sports science/medicine/psychology...I say yes.
So, is the bullet still in the gun...and is the gun still in the holster...apologies if I have taken your question the wrong way but I have had a recent conversation with a parent who is critical of the 'talent' BPHS has...but they are judging one part of the program...
Our results this year in the ERREA Sports High School Competiton indicate that the hard work over the past 4 years is paying off...
Boys : 3-3 v Endeavour, 3-3 v Hills and 10-0 v Illawarra Girls : 2-0 v Endeavour, 0-4 v Hills and 5-0 v Illawarra
If you judge success by win/loss ratios...
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Post by sherlock on May 8, 2011 21:58:18 GMT 10
and 5 officials at the NSW PSSA boys championships are students from BPHS... and 8 officials at the NSW PSSA girls championships are students from BPHS...
NG...are other school programs attempting to do this and have a focus on academic progress...or are we all still living the dream of 'our kid is going to get a million dollar contract at FC Barcelona or some other huge club'...Dream-makers...
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Post by newguest on May 30, 2011 21:39:14 GMT 10
NG... Sounds like a loaded question...so here's a truthful answer. Yes...but you are assuming that they are ALL gifted and talented at PLAYING football...but the BPHS Curriculum for football is a holistic approach to football education. That is, we are committed to developing students in all aspect of football. So, are some of the current students gifted and talented students of coaching, refereeing, journalism/media, sports science/medicine/psychology...I say yes. So, is the bullet still in the gun...and is the gun still in the holster...apologies if I have taken your question the wrong way but I have had a recent conversation with a parent who is critical of the 'talent' BPHS has...but they are judging one part of the program... Our results this year in the ERREA Sports High School Competiton indicate that the hard work over the past 4 years is paying off... Boys : 3-3 v Endeavour, 3-3 v Hills and 10-0 v Illawarra Girls : 2-0 v Endeavour, 0-4 v Hills and 5-0 v Illawarra If you judge success by win/loss ratios... Sherlock. Loaded Question? meaning? I wonder if bossley high would mix the (gifted artist, or the gifted and talented in maths etc) with the student that have very low grades? Maybe they do? And if not, then why not? Gifted and talented students of coaching, refereeing, journalism/media, sports science/medicine/psychology, are called talented FOOTBALLERS? if yes? then I apologies. Plus, success is by producing players, not by the results.
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Post by reaper on May 30, 2011 22:51:04 GMT 10
NG... Sounds like a loaded question...so here's a truthful answer. Yes...but you are assuming that they are ALL gifted and talented at PLAYING football...but the BPHS Curriculum for football is a holistic approach to football education. That is, we are committed to developing students in all aspect of football. So, are some of the current students gifted and talented students of coaching, refereeing, journalism/media, sports science/medicine/psychology...I say yes. So, is the bullet still in the gun...and is the gun still in the holster...apologies if I have taken your question the wrong way but I have had a recent conversation with a parent who is critical of the 'talent' BPHS has...but they are judging one part of the program... Our results this year in the ERREA Sports High School Competiton indicate that the hard work over the past 4 years is paying off... Boys : 3-3 v Endeavour, 3-3 v Hills and 10-0 v Illawarra Girls : 2-0 v Endeavour, 0-4 v Hills and 5-0 v Illawarra If you judge success by win/loss ratios... Sherlock. Loaded Question? meaning? I wonder if bossley high would mix the (gifted artist, or the gifted and talented in maths etc) with the student that have very low grades? Maybe they do? And if not, then why not? Gifted and talented students of coaching, refereeing, journalism/media, sports science/medicine/psychology, are called talented FOOTBALLERS? if yes? then I apologies. Plus, success is by producing players, not by the results. All State high schools are streamed so that children of all academic levels whatever the subject, are placed with peers of similar ability. I do not understand your question regarding mixing gifted and talented students of the arts and maths with children of lesser ability? Perhaps you can make your points clearer so that we can try and understand what the hell you are going on about?
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Post by sherlock on Jun 1, 2011 23:53:05 GMT 10
NG, Football classes at Bossley expose all student athletes to every aspect of the game...in doing so we have unearthed three very capable young referees - two of which have recently been selected to represent NSW at the National Primary Schools Tournament for the second consecutive year. Both these students came to Bossley with the dream of becoming professional players. Now both have aspirations of refereeing at the AFC level and hence then in Europe.
Had we not taken the approach that we are taking, these lads and others may have been lost to the game totally as they could have lost interest as their ability to play the game did not improve with their maturity.
We have had other successes in coaching and the media with the latter looking to travel to the USA to study sports journalism.
I believe that we have the formula right...time will tell with regards the player development as our first intake that studied the course in it's current format in the timetable, will graduate Year 12 this year...prior to these guys, we did not really have formal trials as we do now. It was mainly those at the school or those that David Lee recommended or those that other students enticed along to enrol.
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Post by longseason on Jul 7, 2011 12:09:43 GMT 10
Agree with you Sportingbet to a certain extent. At Bossley there was one very good premier youth player who thought all but one player in his 2009 Bill Turner cup team sucked. Brought him down? Don't think so as the team won the cup and the kid moved on to an offer from England and not sure if he survived. Is he a smart kid? No, reeked of arrogance just like his old man.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 8, 2011 9:18:06 GMT 10
JR... Lucky the coach made decisions then huh? Furthermore, the player that I believe that you refer to is a striker...in 2009 when Bossley won the Bill Turner Cup, the young lad was played as a central defender...he hated it...his elders hated it...the coach loved it as the player learnt the role of a defender and had to think like a defender...
This in time has improved him as an attacking player...Leeds did this with a young Harry Kewell...Harry left Australia as a wide left player or striker...placed into a defending position in order to educate him about the 'enemy'...
Proves that there is more to the game then the time from whistle to whistle and winning....
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