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Post by directfk on Feb 20, 2018 16:35:03 GMT 10
That's right, it was a Saturday 7pm game. Watched the 20s then first grade.
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Post by tarzan on Feb 20, 2018 16:49:41 GMT 10
That's right, it was a Saturday 7pm game. Watched the 20s then first grade. That's ya reason for low crowds!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 8:51:32 GMT 10
Agree Sat night is not ideal, but again, I 100% blame the clubs for close to 0 effort
Why can't Marconi invite the local u5s and u6s teams to play some games at half time Why can't they use local park team u12s/13s as ball boys (not Marconi youth) Why can't they do Game/Dinner discount bundles for those that watch Why can't they build a rewards program that gives football spectators club benefits. Why can't first grade players attend local park games on a Sat morning, guest referee for 30mins and hand out some game/dinner discounted tix
Anything that engages the community will only benefit them. I'm not in business/marketing but this stuff isn't rocket science. Its been done to death in the business world and you could literally copy/paste a whole engagement strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 8:53:59 GMT 10
Mercurial, I went to support my team at Marconi on a beautiful Saturday night. Maybe 30 to 40 Marconi supporters went to the ground and the club was packed. It's a shame really. How you can change that around, I don't know. Maybe the youth watch the English PL and the European competitions and don't even rate our state and A-leagues.
Its sad! I've seen the exact same thing and not just there. United isn't much better. I remember as a kid, walking to Marconi and the stadium was packed. With no media promotion of NPL and no engagement, this is what you get. No Interest
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Post by directfk on Feb 21, 2018 16:18:23 GMT 10
Mercurial, That's right, so do I. So why isn't it happening now ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 16:46:30 GMT 10
Mercurial, That's right, so do I. So why isn't it happening now ? My personal opinion on Marconi? Its pretty simple. The club wants them on the pokies and not outside supporting a football team.
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Post by directfk on Feb 21, 2018 18:01:21 GMT 10
That wouldn't surprise me either. It's all about profits these days.
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Post by LetsPlay on Feb 23, 2018 19:42:40 GMT 10
The crowds watching NPL are comparable to crowds watching NSW Cup in league and other semi professional AFL and union leagues
The reason why theses older clubs were packed in the past is because the best in the country were playing in the top league for these clubs ... that were built by the communities of the club so there was passion at the games each week
What’s there to watch now? Semi professionals playing in a geographical npl league
Ask yourself the same question, if you were at the Marconi, would you rather treat yourself to a night in the club with entertainment and fun or sit outside watching semi professionals kicking a ball around?
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Post by directfk on Feb 24, 2018 8:04:42 GMT 10
Sitting outside watching football.
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Post by tarzan on Feb 24, 2018 9:15:58 GMT 10
The crowds watching NPL are comparable to crowds watching NSW Cup in league and other semi professional AFL and union leagues The reason why theses older clubs were packed in the past is because the best in the country were playing in the top league for these clubs ... that were built by the communities of the club so there was passion at the games each week What’s there to watch now? Semi professionals playing in a geographical npl league Ask yourself the same question, if you were at the Marconi, would you rather treat yourself to a night in the club with entertainment and fun or sit outside watching semi professionals kicking a ball around? Have you seen their entertainment? Think I'd rather watch football.
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Post by LetsPlay on Feb 24, 2018 9:28:02 GMT 10
True Tarzan, but it appeals to the people turning over the $ in there
The crowd they would need to target probably wouldn’t even go to the club, and then again would rather go to an aleague game then an nrl games in winter
Regardless of teams with ethnic or nonethnic affiliations, nothing is going through the gates to watch
This is why in my opinion a second division won’t last, it’s unaffordable to sustain, great in theory thou
Clubs need to be encouraged to develop kids and maximise their transfer value
Aleague is not about development, it’s about winning the next game, to much pressure to win rather than give the kids a try
Npl should be mandated to have a minimum number of u23s in the squad and be a proxy development league
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 19:55:01 GMT 10
Or the 2 division should be purely u23s, mandatory, cheap wages with higher transfer fees and pathway. It has to happen
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Post by directfk on Feb 24, 2018 22:05:24 GMT 10
It would cost too much money to run.
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Post by LetsPlay on Mar 2, 2018 12:35:53 GMT 10
if div2 was a U23 comp only, where would the players who are 24-35 which have got the talent to play semi-professional but can't crack the a-league? they should retire at 24?
Come on this is non-sense, we have the systems in place, they just need to be tweaked to make them relevant.
* We have the A-League as the top division * We have NYL to allow the talented youth play each other * We have an NPL league that needs to be tweaked to make it more of a development league, mandate minimum number of U23s I would say 30% of the squad should be, allow the NPL clubs to make maximum profit from on selling their talent to an A-League club, if they can't afford it then they go overseas if they get a chance; * We have a NPL Youth state championships for the most talented in each region who's teams should be picked by regional scouts who watch / track the kids over a period of time rather than by trials and they should track most talented kids from Youth NPL1, NPL2 and NPL3; * There should be an ability to allow SAP kids who excel to play each other in a regional competition as well, how are the kids developing now with the fixtures they play when a team can win 13-0 one week 15-0 a second week then have 3-3 draw the thurd week ( I know scores don't matter in SAP but just using it as an example)
There is too much bias in football based on a coaches personal links with kids (ie play at their club or academies) to allow the game to choose the best, it needs to be made independent and not based on a single trial with a team rather a trial period of at least a month or via the scouting process.
But then Gallop will come on saying we have no money ...... there is money, it's just being wasted on reinventing a system that is already there and just needs to be tweaked or return it to the way it used to be when the 'golden generation' came through the ranks.
The FFA and FNSW try to make evolution of the game so technical to the point they confuse themselves and continue to start from scratch, when we had a system before which was potentially 65% correct, which should have been brought up to 75% correct by the time the A-League started and up to 95% right around now, instead we started with a system which started at 65% correct and it has dropped back to 50% correct now!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 15:25:53 GMT 10
if div2 was a U23 comp only, where would the players who are 24-35 which have got the talent to play semi-professional but can't crack the a-league? they should retire at 24? Come on this is non-sense, we have the systems in place, they just need to be tweaked to make them relevant. * We have the A-League as the top division * We have NYL to allow the talented youth play each other * We have an NPL league that needs to be tweaked to make it more of a development league, mandate minimum number of U23s I would say 30% of the squad should be, allow the NPL clubs to make maximum profit from on selling their talent to an A-League club, if they can't afford it then they go overseas if they get a chance; * We have a NPL Youth state championships for the most talented in each region who's teams should be picked by regional scouts who watch / track the kids over a period of time rather than by trials and they should track most talented kids from Youth NPL1, NPL2 and NPL3; * There should be an ability to allow SAP kids who excel to play each other in a regional competition as well, how are the kids developing now with the fixtures they play when a team can win 13-0 one week 15-0 a second week then have 3-3 draw the thurd week ( I know scores don't matter in SAP but just using it as an example) There is too much bias in football based on a coaches personal links with kids (ie play at their club or academies) to allow the game to choose the best, it needs to be made independent and not based on a single trial with a team rather a trial period of at least a month or via the scouting process. But then Gallop will come on saying we have no money ...... there is money, it's just being wasted on reinventing a system that is already there and just needs to be tweaked or return it to the way it used to be when the 'golden generation' came through the ranks. The FFA and FNSW try to make evolution of the game so technical to the point they confuse themselves and continue to start from scratch, when we had a system before which was potentially 65% correct, which should have been brought up to 75% correct by the time the A-League started and up to 95% right around now, instead we started with a system which started at 65% correct and it has dropped back to 50% correct now! 1st team ...
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