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Post by tarzan on Mar 15, 2016 14:33:45 GMT 10
IF YOUR NOT A COACHES FAVOURITE AT THESE SCHOOLS WASTE OF TIME!!! NO SUCH THING AS FAIRNESS AND MONITORING. BEING A FAVOURITE IS THE ONLY WAY TO BENIFIT YOUR SON. TRUST ME BEEN THROUGH IT AND SEEN IT HAPPEN TO KIDS!!! IF YOUR SON IS NOT SELECTED INTO ONE OF THE ALEAUGE TEAMS HE HAS NO CHANCE OF PLAYING FOR THE SCHOOL TEAM OVER THE ONES THAT ARE!! ITS A DISGRACE AND DISCRIMINATION AS SOME OF THESE BOYS WHERE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE PICKED TO GO TO THESE SPORTS SCHOOLS FROM YEAR 7 AND NOW WITH THE NEW STRUCTURE INTRODUCING WSW AN SFC INTO THE NPL IF YOUR SON IS NOT IN THESE TEAMS NO FAIRNESS AT SCHOOL!! Cheap shot...no further comment so take it was all rubbish?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 15, 2016 20:23:44 GMT 10
A League clubs will be excited about this new and innovative idea of combining academic and football education. I'm guessing clubs like CCM's will benefit from the players that will be churned out by this system...exciting times ahead...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 8:26:06 GMT 10
Do you think it means anything for BPHS sherlock? Kids preferring to try their luck at Westfields first, drawn by the promise of FFA/A League contracts?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 16, 2016 20:46:37 GMT 10
Mercurial, In your honest opinion, what do you see has changed? Prior to this launch, were WSHS not already doing what they are doing now?
Through the 90's Kelly Cross under the guidance of David Lee developed a great deal of the Westfields Socceroos and Matildas at Westfields. Kelly left circa 1998 to become NSWIS coach. Kelly was the Assistant Coach to Les Scheinflug to the Joeys when they made the Final of the U17 World Cup in 1999 in New Zealand. Then he moved onto the FFA where he became the only Australian Coach to be accredited as a FIFA Coach Instructor and FIFA World Cup Technical Team member.
Reuniting with Kelly this year is proving to be successful as he value adds to the Football Calendar and the sessions within it. You will find that, due to acquiring KC's knowledge, more of the Year 7's will be there at 18 then not. Unfortunately people mainly judge success by results at 12-13. There have been so many great 12-13 year old players that didn't follow on with their success. One of our objectives is to minimise this phenomenon.
So, what does this mean for Bossley...nothing. Nor does it mean anything for Hills Sports HS, Endeavour Sports HS or Hunter Sports HS. A League clubs will look at players from anywhere as long as they are good. WSW's may get an edge from it as the FFA may engage some money into the Professional Development of the WSHS staff.
But otherwise if the FFA truly believe that there exists no other school football education programs then indeed they don't have a handle on their own product...which is truly a frightening thought!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 8:23:33 GMT 10
I don't think anything has changed, hence the smiley at your comment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 22:50:09 GMT 10
Sports schools are just that sports schools, education is another beast.
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Post by passingwind on Mar 26, 2016 10:07:59 GMT 10
Sports schools are just that sports schools, education is another beast. The word “educate” is derived from the Latin word “educo,” meaning to educe, to bring out, to draw out, and to develop from within. Not all kids will succeed in " formal education" just as not all kids will succeed in their chosen sport. "Horses for courses."
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Post by biggles on Mar 27, 2016 19:36:36 GMT 10
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Post by sherlock on Mar 28, 2016 13:19:10 GMT 10
Sports schools are just that sports schools, education is another beast. The word “educate” is derived from the Latin word “educo,” meaning to educe, to bring out, to draw out, and to develop from within. Not all kids will succeed in " formal education" just as not all kids will succeed in their chosen sport. "Horses for courses." Understand where you are coming from passing wind...but one must look at the focus of the school. As you say, a sports school has a focus on sport. A comprehensive high school has a focus on education. If one wants to develop both sides of a child then one needs to seek the best of both worlds; the school that looks at student athlete as their focus. The school that develops a Plan B option for it's students. You say "Horses for course"...I say no education focus is for donkeys...
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Post by sherlock on Mar 28, 2016 13:26:43 GMT 10
The Principal from Endeavour Sports High School has realised that the decline in it's academic results over the last 5-10 years has affected the population of the school and the drawing power of elite athletes.
Now that he has changed the philosophy of the school to student athlete and worked hard on the 2015 HSC results, Endeavour will again attract good athletes and their program will grow stronger. The secret is in getting the non-sport staff to buy into the philosophy of student athlete and he'll be on a winner. (The schools that focus on winning competitions will eventually lose out as their students won't have a Plan B)
As I have advised past players, look at the club that you are looking at playing for...look how many of last years 18's are playing 20's and look at last years 20's are in 1st Grade. This will help you decide if the club is the one for you to be at.
Similarly, look at Year 12 graduates and how many are playing football at a high level or have matriculated into the tertiary education system. This is the high school that you should choose for your child.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 8, 2016 6:53:52 GMT 10
An interesting read. In the USA some have invested a great deal of money to attract players. The clubs believed that facilities make the player. It's great to stay in a 5-star hotel, but if the cooking isn't great, at least you have a good bed to sleep in. When KC was involved with FIFA Review and they were addressed by Bayern Munich staff. He told of how the BM staff explained that their greatest problem was that kids would turn up at the Academy, that has all the bells and whistles, and have the attitude that "I am here...now you train me to be the best!" As opposed to "I am here...thank you...and now I am willing to work hard to have a chance of being good enough!"... So perhaps it's more the attitude of the player as opposed to the facility that is important. espn.go.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/14206717/how-safe-fields-where-play
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Post by directfk on Apr 22, 2016 18:04:40 GMT 10
It takes a special child to be a gifted sportsman or women and be academically good as well. 99% of the time it's either the sport or the studies that take the front seat but not both. This isn't a criticism, just an opinion.
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Post by icemansyd on May 5, 2016 11:30:07 GMT 10
It takes a special child to be a gifted sportsman or women and be academically good as well. 99% of the time it's either the sport or the studies that take the front seat but not both. This isn't a criticism, just an opinion. very true IMO !
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Post by sherlock on May 8, 2016 10:57:29 GMT 10
It takes a special child to be a gifted sportsman or women and be academically good as well. 99% of the time it's either the sport or the studies that take the front seat but not both. This isn't a criticism, just an opinion. very true IMO ! These statements may have elements of truth. However, the truth is that a gifted athlete can be academically 'improved'. There may indeed be not many individuals that excel at both sport and academic, but the focus should be on improving the academic ability of the gifted athlete. The school that shows evidence of this is the school that is serving the talented athlete correctly.
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Post by tarzan on May 8, 2016 11:33:03 GMT 10
I am aware of a German youth academy where trialists must prove themselves on the field as well as academically via school reports/grades. If schooling not up to scratch they are rejected no matter their on-field abilities.
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