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Post by geuriefc on Feb 22, 2016 13:47:50 GMT 10
Hi guys,
theres probably a thread on this topic in here somewhere... If so, mods please redirect
We're considering sending our son to a sports high next year and I was hoping others could give me their thoughts on the value of this system. Also the merit of the various sports high options.
If he went he would be living away from home and therefore also looking for a new club, anyone with experience with this?
Sorry, open ended questions, looking for some feedback
Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 10:00:49 GMT 10
How old is your son? And more so, how mature is he. I personally know my son would struggle away from home in Yr7 and I wouldn't even contemplate it.
As for value, I guess it depends on the program at that particular HS. My son attends a sports high, but has only just started this year. We chose this particular one though as there is a significant focus on his schooling and so far, I can say that there is a very balanced approach to his training at school. Additionally they know quite well that the kids do a significant amount of training outside of school with their clubs and this is all worked into their approach. Again, something we looked at.
At Yr7, I know he could change his mind 100 times over the next few years as to what he loves and wants to do, so we were very conscious not to put all our eggs in one basket and have him somewhere where football is 90% of the priority.
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Post by geuriefc on Feb 24, 2016 12:33:26 GMT 10
Thanks Mercurial, he'll be heading into year 8 if he goes next year. At this stage theres a fair chance hed be staying with friends or relatives. Hes also very mature, spent most of January away from home without us and had a ball (also behaved appropriately from all accounts), came home from that experience asking if he could go away to school, so yeah we think hes ready for it. Theres also a chance he would be heading away with another kid from here who he currently plays with, so mutual support in the new school which would help.
Having said all that, while he may be ready his mum and I will struggle.
The tie in between sports program involvement and academic progress is very appealing, its the kind of direct motivation to learn that he needs, he would be perfectly happy juggling, running and taking shots all day if he could get away with it.
Before you ask, we live 4-5 hours from Sydney, there are limited opportunities out here and if he is going anywhere with football he needs more than we can offer here. That's also why he would need a new club. Is your sons HS tied to any particular clubs or is recruitment in Sydney a free for all? I also like the fact that the schools highlight careers in football beyond the field, ie refing etc
Thanks again
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Post by geuriefc on Feb 24, 2016 12:34:59 GMT 10
BTW living this far from Sydney means a lot of his cohort are at boarding schools for HS so culturally its not unique
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Post by sherlock on Mar 2, 2016 14:32:03 GMT 10
Bossley has a student athlete approach...emphasis on the student and their academic development. 2015 Talented Football Program student from the Campbelltown region achieved a 99.8 ATAR.
Hills, Endeavour and Bossley are Sydney FC Academy Schools. Focus is on the development of the individual player.
Leave you with what a wise old man once said:
"Anyone can coach good players to win. But not every coach can make them great players!"
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Post by martintyler on Mar 4, 2016 5:15:36 GMT 10
Bossley has a student athlete approach...emphasis on the student and their academic development. 2015 Talented Football Program student from the Campbelltown region achieved a 99.8 ATAR. Hills, Endeavour and Bossley are Sydney FC Academy Schools. Focus is on the development of the individual player. Leave you with what a wise old man once said: "Anyone can coach good players to win. But not every coach can make them great players!" You've been doing a good job at Bossley for a number of years now sherlock. Has the Sydney FC link changed much?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 4, 2016 6:44:05 GMT 10
The Sydney FC link is strong, healthy and productive one; soon to become a pathway for both boys AND girls. The one characteristic that is it's strength is that, even if you are not currently in a Sydney FC squad, the players are being monitored. Monitoring through school coach referrral/reporting to KC and the three schools are participating in 'Talent Identification Days' whereby the three schools attend the one venue (year group at a time) and play. The format of the TID's is going to be either the school stays together as a team or the students are integrated.
It is a healthy relationship as each year group understands that there are two other squads training at the other two schools with players that wish to be identified and the current Sydney FC players know that these players want a position in the squad. So it sets up a competitive environment.
Working closely with KC has been productive as the school's program staff are his eyes and ears on the character development of the player. Reports back to KC include positive academic and school community achievement to the other end of the spectrum if there are any behavioural issues; more of the former at this stage as opposed to the latter.
All in all it should be interesting to see where we are in 5 years; hopefully with a very productive program for both boys and girls.
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Post by tarzan on Mar 5, 2016 16:23:15 GMT 10
Will be interesting to see the approach SFS and WSW take to player retention.
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Post by enmorecat on Mar 5, 2016 17:08:11 GMT 10
Will be interesting to see the approach SFS and WSW take to player retention. Pretty sure they got all the best ones available...
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Post by martintyler on Mar 6, 2016 16:52:38 GMT 10
The Sydney FC link is strong, healthy and productive one; soon to become a pathway for both boys AND girls. The one characteristic that is it's strength is that, even if you are not currently in a Sydney FC squad, the players are being monitored. Monitoring through school coach referrral/reporting to KC and the three schools are participating in 'Talent Identification Days' whereby the three schools attend the one venue (year group at a time) and play. The format of the TID's is going to be either the school stays together as a team or the students are integrated. It is a healthy relationship as each year group understands that there are two other squads training at the other two schools with players that wish to be identified and the current Sydney FC players know that these players want a position in the squad. So it sets up a competitive environment. Working closely with KC has been productive as the school's program staff are his eyes and ears on the character development of the player. Reports back to KC include positive academic and school community achievement to the other end of the spectrum if there are any behavioural issues; more of the former at this stage as opposed to the latter. All in all it should be interesting to see where we are in 5 years; hopefully with a very productive program for both boys and girls. So are pupils at Bossley Park and Hills exclusively tied to Sydney FC?
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Post by sherlock on Mar 7, 2016 7:20:10 GMT 10
MT At Bossley Park HS we have students that are playing at a variety of clubs throughout the Sydney Metropolitan area including both SFC and WSW's. We don't discriminate where students choose to play. We are here to facilitate learning, both academically and football, for the benefit of the individual student athlete. However, with the identification (scouting) processes that are in place within the primary school system and the club system, the number of SFC students athletes at BPHS will increase as opposed to decrease.
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Post by iknownothing on Mar 7, 2016 9:02:22 GMT 10
IF YOUR NOT A COACHES FAVOURITE AT THESE SCHOOLS WASTE OF TIME!!! NO SUCH THING AS FAIRNESS AND MONITORING. BEING A FAVOURITE IS THE ONLY WAY TO BENIFIT YOUR SON. TRUST ME BEEN THROUGH IT AND SEEN IT HAPPEN TO KIDS!!! IF YOUR SON IS NOT SELECTED INTO ONE OF THE ALEAUGE TEAMS HE HAS NO CHANCE OF PLAYING FOR THE SCHOOL TEAM OVER THE ONES THAT ARE!! ITS A DISGRACE AND DISCRIMINATION AS SOME OF THESE BOYS WHERE GOOD ENOUGH TO BE PICKED TO GO TO THESE SPORTS SCHOOLS FROM YEAR 7 AND NOW WITH THE NEW STRUCTURE INTRODUCING WSW AN SFC INTO THE NPL IF YOUR SON IS NOT IN THESE TEAMS NO FAIRNESS AT SCHOOL!!
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Post by sherlock on Mar 7, 2016 14:07:47 GMT 10
IKN, To better understand your post, could you please define 'coach's favourite'. That way, given that I'm involved and I feel that through association you've tainted my reputation here, I'd like to better respond to your post; be it from a BPHS perspective. Please be rest assured, no malice is taken or will be given. Just an intellectual conversation as many don't let the truth get in the way of a good rumour.
Thanks for your time.
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Post by chav on Mar 12, 2016 21:51:04 GMT 10
My son attends BPHS and is part of the GAT program, I have found the coaching to be fair for all players not just those who were playing PL1 last year or those with SFC or WSW this year. Every parent will expect something different from all teams and coaches but of those that I have spoken to regarding our boys all seem very impressed.
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Post by ivan on Mar 15, 2016 14:22:39 GMT 10
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