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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 22:18:30 GMT 10
Report will be out very soon with all the changes.
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Post by tarzan on Dec 7, 2014 23:12:11 GMT 10
Report will be out very soon with all the changes. You're teasing. More info please!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 22:16:27 GMT 10
After the Asian Cup here in Sydney the results should be out.
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Post by martintyler on Dec 19, 2014 5:11:18 GMT 10
After the Asian Cup here in Sydney the results should be out. Days, weeks, months or years?
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Post by fiik on Dec 19, 2014 6:20:38 GMT 10
Decades
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Post by tarzan on Dec 19, 2014 10:26:51 GMT 10
Report will be out very soon with all the changes. I wonder which clubs will continue to outperform? Think i could guess the top 5 and bottom 5 without too much trouble. Hopefully parents and players will have visibility too.
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Post by tyrion on Dec 19, 2014 21:51:53 GMT 10
Report will be out very soon with all the changes. I wonder which clubs will continue to outperform? Think i could guess the top 5 and bottom 5 without too much trouble. Hopefully parents and players will have visibility too. How's your club going ? Produced any players for A league , overseas , Joeys , 20s Any??
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Post by tarzan on Dec 19, 2014 23:17:22 GMT 10
I wonder which clubs will continue to outperform? Think i could guess the top 5 and bottom 5 without too much trouble. Hopefully parents and players will have visibility too. How's your club going ? Produced any players for A league , overseas , Joeys , 20s Any?? Yes, yes and yes.....but is that the right measure? Do you measure the quality of a school based solely on how many doctors and lawyers come out the other end? How do you define "produced"? How much can a club claim was their doing v how much was really the players own doing?
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Post by tyrion on Dec 19, 2014 23:39:18 GMT 10
Yes it is how you measure success, you look at where players are nurtured and where they learn to play and where they learn to respect and treasure the game , then you look at the system , management structure , coaches that make all this happen and yes you have or should have a successful set up, West ham had it in the 80s - Man U in the 90s and now Saints are producing quality players . Those are just 3 english clubs , mainland Europe would have 10 times the success in regards to producing quality players. I am sorry but yes I do measure success in this way and yes I do know it's not politicaly correct , but I don't really care
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Post by 442 on Dec 20, 2014 6:14:46 GMT 10
How's your club going ? Produced any players for A league , overseas , Joeys , 20s Any?? Yes, yes and yes.....but is that the right measure? Do you measure the quality of a school based solely on how many doctors and lawyers come out the other end? How do you define "produced"? How much can a club claim was their doing v how much was really the players own doing? There is no more important reason for clubs to exist than for their administration and coaches to develop players from their youth and therefore play for their country. Anything less is mediocre to say the least Any other reason is for self interest and self interest only......
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Post by tarzan on Dec 20, 2014 8:25:31 GMT 10
Yes, yes and yes.....but is that the right measure? Do you measure the quality of a school based solely on how many doctors and lawyers come out the other end? How do you define "produced"? How much can a club claim was their doing v how much was really the players own doing? There is no more important reason for clubs to exist than for their administration and coaches to develop players from their youth and therefore play for their country. Anything less is mediocre to say the least Any other reason is for self interest and self interest only...... Develop their youth - definitely. The issue though was how you measure performance of the club...its a difficult one. There are many attributes that a player needs to have that clubs cant necessarily take the credit for....physical/genetic, desire, commitment,etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 17:46:11 GMT 10
There is no more important reason for clubs to exist than for their administration and coaches to develop players from their youth and therefore play for their country. Anything less is mediocre to say the least Any other reason is for self interest and self interest only...... Develop their youth - definitely. The issue though was how you measure performance of the club...its a difficult one. There are many attributes that a player needs to have that clubs cant necessarily take the credit for....physical/genetic, desire, commitment,etc. The system is still broken after many attempts to fix it, after the Asian Cup there will be some sort of notice to try fix the issue of football development in this country, but contrary what we belive there isn't much trained talent around, like I said before one So called Elite program is not sufficient.
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Post by tarzan on Dec 24, 2014 18:18:25 GMT 10
Develop their youth - definitely. The issue though was how you measure performance of the club...its a difficult one. There are many attributes that a player needs to have that clubs cant necessarily take the credit for....physical/genetic, desire, commitment,etc. The system is still broken after many attempts to fix it, after the Asian Cup there will be some sort of notice to try fix the issue of football development in this country, but contrary what we belive there isn't much trained talent around, like I said before one So called Elite program is not sufficient. SAP (70 kids x 30 clubs in Sydney alone), PL1, PL2, RYL Regional Conference and a variety of Academies...not sure the demand is there to warrant more. Perhaps the issue is more about quality than quantity. Grow the interest in the game, grow the demand and then grow more programs...but for now keep working on the quality of existing programs.
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Post by oldgoalie on Dec 27, 2014 18:06:28 GMT 10
The system is still broken after many attempts to fix it, after the Asian Cup there will be some sort of notice to try fix the issue of football development in this country, but contrary what we belive there isn't much trained talent around, like I said before one So called Elite program is not sufficient. SAP (70 kids x 30 clubs in Sydney alone), PL1, PL2, RYL Regional Conference and a variety of Academies...not sure the demand is there to warrant more. Perhaps the issue is more about quality than quantity. Grow the interest in the game, grow the demand and then grow more programs...but for now keep working on the quality of existing programs. No demand? Funniest thing I've read for ages....most likely its the price.
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Post by tarzan on Dec 27, 2014 19:37:04 GMT 10
SAP (70 kids x 30 clubs in Sydney alone), PL1, PL2, RYL Regional Conference and a variety of Academies...not sure the demand is there to warrant more. Perhaps the issue is more about quality than quantity. Grow the interest in the game, grow the demand and then grow more programs...but for now keep working on the quality of existing programs. No demand? Funniest thing I've read for ages....most likely its the price. " No demand"? ......your word not mine. Try not to laugh at yourself, it's unhealthy If you want 240 hours of football per year you need to pay ( $10 per hour). If you want 30/40 hours of football you pay local club $300/$400 ( $10 per hour). Play in the park by yourself ( $0 ph). Plenty of choices in a user pays system?
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