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Post by scarecrow on May 28, 2012 9:27:53 GMT 10
I'll start off by saying I don't have a problem with the referee stopping play if a player is injured and I don't have a problem with teams throwing the ball if the ball is kicked out for treatment.
My problem is with the farce that drops balls have become. When did they stop being contested and when did it becomes the referees job to decided which team gets possession from this. Had a situation on the weekend and APIA player went down injured. St George had possession in their attacking half. Referee stopped play that's fine.
At the drop ball. APIA 'did the right thing' and reefed the ball down field. Then pressed high a won the ball in their attacking half and led to a shot on goal. Sure we shouldn't have lost the ball but we also shouldn't have been under that pressure.
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Post by shinpad on May 28, 2012 16:56:29 GMT 10
So how is that the referees fault ?
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Post by scarecrow on May 28, 2012 16:59:30 GMT 10
Because it was the referee that told us not to contest it and let them kick it back to us.
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Post by scarecrow on May 28, 2012 17:00:08 GMT 10
We would've been quite happy with a contested drop ball
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Post by shinpad on May 28, 2012 17:11:50 GMT 10
The referee cannot and should not say anything to the players. Still, it wasn't the referees fault that the opposition scored. I understand your frustration and yes you should have contested the ball if the team wanted to.
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Post by scarecrow on May 28, 2012 18:35:34 GMT 10
They didn't score. It just led to a shot that's all
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Post by (•̃_•̃) the ball on May 29, 2012 16:32:53 GMT 10
The problem is with the incorrect way of applying "sportsmanship". I have seen this many times before. The ball is kicked deep into the opposition half which is fine but then they should either let the keeper pick it up or let a defender kick it straight back up without applying pressure. Mind you if the defenders start to build up play from the back then the opposition has every right to press.
We had the same situation on the weekend. We kicked the ball out deep into opposition territory for a TI. But Our coach instructed the forwards not to press at the TI.
Having said that its not the referee's fault if the opposition couldn't quite figure out how to be "sporting" on this. However the ref should have known better not to tell any team what to do.
Many referees don't like the drop ball law for this reason (and the fact that contested drop balls can be dangerous). Some have suggested the game should restart with the ball in the hands of the goal keeper of the team which had possession when the game was stopped. But this has its own problems.
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Post by ballboy on May 30, 2012 12:18:16 GMT 10
The referee can't dictate the operation of the drop ball. He can ask what the players want to do. He can't legislate either how many players are in the drop ball.
I had an injury in the CCC Carnival yesterday. The ball was stopped near the penalty area boundary. I restarted with a drop ball inside the PA, and told the GK was I was going to do. She was as confused as hell. I moved the drop ball into the PA so that I could give the ball directly to the GK and play could continue. I have done this quite a lot and the GK tends to ask, can I pick it up?
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Post by fiik on May 31, 2012 7:05:12 GMT 10
It's all very well saying what the ref can and cannot do but has anyone told the refs? Players get told what to do by the ref and if they don't do it, the yellow pops out quicker that my missus can throw a frypan.
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Post by ballboy on May 31, 2012 9:07:51 GMT 10
Maybe the coaches should ask the ref before the game as to what happens with the drop ball situations.
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Post by scarecrow on May 31, 2012 11:51:20 GMT 10
Maybe the coaches should ask the ref before the game as to what happens with the drop ball situations. We have enough things to worry about before a game starts. All I'm saying if the ball is stopped while in play besides in the keepers hands contest the drop ball like the rules state. Referees stop the game far too quickly nowadays any way. The best is when they stop the game to check the players is alright then don't call the coach/trainer on. Besides head injuries, there is no real need to stop the game immediately to treat and injury. 30 seconds is not going to be life threatening for half the knocks that occur in a game
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Post by shinpad on May 31, 2012 15:18:03 GMT 10
That's easier said than done. Especially if the player screams out like he is dying and a priest is required to read him his last rights. A lot of players do this and in case the player is seriously hurt you do tend to stop play as soon as you can. Imagine playing on until the ball is out and the player is really hurt. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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Post by fiik on Jun 2, 2012 9:30:01 GMT 10
Damned refs.
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Post by shinpad on Jun 2, 2012 10:42:07 GMT 10
Damned players.
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Post by fiik on Jun 4, 2012 9:27:28 GMT 10
Damned good comeback
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