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Post by fillet on Sept 24, 2016 13:59:02 GMT 10
So, under the guidance of the other Vidmar, our U16s failed to take a single point in the group stage this week, to make the U17 World Cup. Failed to qualify, again!!
We lost to the might of Kyrgistan and Vietnam in the firsts 2 games......got knocked out there and then!
But what's got me baffled, is that the coach started with the same 11 for the third game against Japan. A game that even if we won by 50 we could not qualify. You've got 23 players to choose from but you start with the same tired legs that could not beat Vietnam and Kyrgistan? No new combinations, no adjusting the squads, no imagination to change things around....
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Post by security on Sept 24, 2016 16:38:44 GMT 10
Job for the boy somethings never change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 17:10:59 GMT 10
Maybe he is playing hide the sausage with the yummy mummies. That may explain selections.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 18:26:57 GMT 10
Exclusion is the problem, many top coaches that should be involved with our game are not, if you look back at the coaches say around 25 years that coached many of our star players are not coaching so the current crop coming through are not being well trained, the smart players are the ones that are being educated overseas, but the future is looking bleak for Australian football very soon we will not Qualify for world cups anymore, who is to blame? Answer : The current system is not working or producing players that can change games, no technical players just road runners like the cartoon figure.
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Post by fillet on Sept 24, 2016 19:38:08 GMT 10
Bolso, you might be right, but what I found bizarre was the coaching, or lack of coaching. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and everyone's a lounge coach, but as I said in my original post, why would the coach persist with the same with the same 11 for their final game, when that group had lost to minnows like Kyrgystan/Vietnam? Did he expect a different result against Japan? I know the quality of some of the kids on the bench, but he either gave them limited game time or didn't use them at all. Ironically, we had a fair bit more possession in all the games, but came away with 3 losses and complete lack of direction. Our style of play dictates that even when we are in the attacking third, we typically pass the ball all the way back deep into our own half because our players are too afraid to take on a player or don't know how to split the opposition.
Possession stats look good, but we can't even beat third world countries. This is a coaching problem imo.
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Post by tarzan on Sept 25, 2016 11:53:27 GMT 10
Maybe they needed a few fast running, slam the ball in the back-of-the-net players and a coach that keeps saying quicker, quicker...wait i know a few 😉
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Post by sherlock on Sept 27, 2016 15:40:46 GMT 10
May be we need coaches that deal with this age group all of the time and not ex-players that treat the players like they would adult players...
There is a distinct lack of experience with this age group over the years...last coach to have a real impact at this level was Kelly Cross...hang on, KC is a quailified and experienced school teacher...
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Post by directfk on Sept 27, 2016 17:40:49 GMT 10
Maybe they should select better players.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 27, 2016 19:21:52 GMT 10
Maybe they should select better players. Don't take offence but you're basically saying that the TiD process is not working. Otherwise you're statement leans towards poltics or corruption. One can't make a general comment such as "they should just select better players"; should they have 'just selected better coaches'. DFK, you're on the money without placing a bet. It has been stated before that our talent identification net does not spread wide enough nor does it cater for single parent (or income) families who live a good distance from the NTC within the metro capital cities. For example, a single mum/dad living in the Shire with one or two other children would find it difficult to get their gifted football child to Glenwood or Blacktown (assuming the HAL clubs have replaced FNSWI as the NTC for boy's) for three sessions per week. What of the child that lives in Bowral or Newcastle? The current system is the most inefficient, ineffective and costly development system that I have experienced in the 25 years of being involved in development coaching!
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Post by sherlock on Sept 27, 2016 19:24:32 GMT 10
To further extend on the above comment, I assume that this squad was selected from NTC Challenges or camps that involved players recommended by HAL clubs, or by FFA coaches that also work for NYL Clubs.
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Post by passingwind on Sept 27, 2016 19:43:37 GMT 10
To further extend on the above comment, I assume that this squad was selected from NTC Challenges or camps that involved players recommended by HAL clubs, or by FFA coaches that also work for NYL Clubs. I am sure you know some teachers that could fix all of Australia's football issues easily on one or maybe two pupil free days.
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Post by tarzan on Sept 27, 2016 19:52:15 GMT 10
I'm still concerned that the womens and mens leagues would be merged under a Safe Football Policy...
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Post by directfk on Sept 28, 2016 10:12:50 GMT 10
tarzan,
LOL.
Some of the blokes in the A-League do carry on like girls.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 13:33:30 GMT 10
May be we need coaches that deal with this age group all of the time and not ex-players that treat the players like they would adult players... There is a distinct lack of experience with this age group over the years...last coach to have a real impact at this level was Kelly Cross...hang on, KC is a quailified and experienced school teacher... Spot on Sherlock. I've said this in previous threads. We need specialist youth coaches. i've had the privilege and luck to play youth football overseas and all the coaches in the youth teams were specialists. Even the first team coach would not get involved with how we were coached other than keeping tabs on younger kids ready to make the step up. I distinctly remember a well known successful former first team coach applying for a job in club youth ranks and was rejected on the basis of inexperience at youth level. Again the biggest difference with the club i was at was that they rely on selling young talent to Europe to stay afloat so they need Coaches who can develop kids quickly and successfully
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Post by sherlock on Oct 10, 2016 17:58:08 GMT 10
May be we need coaches that deal with this age group all of the time and not ex-players that treat the players like they would adult players... There is a distinct lack of experience with this age group over the years...last coach to have a real impact at this level was Kelly Cross...hang on, KC is a quailified and experienced school teacher... Spot on Sherlock. I've said this in previous threads. We need specialist youth coaches. i've had the privilege and luck to play youth football overseas and all the coaches in the youth teams were specialists. Even the first team coach would not get involved with how we were coached other than keeping tabs on younger kids ready to make the step up. I distinctly remember a well known successful former first team coach applying for a job in club youth ranks and was rejected on the basis of inexperience at youth level. Again the biggest difference with the club i was at was that they rely on selling young talent to Europe to stay afloat so they need Coaches who can develop kids quickly and successfully So Obiwan, Why can't one change what ones sees? Or does money affect what one does and forces them not to change what they do? A reply to this post one expects.
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