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Post by grapeape on May 26, 2015 8:46:17 GMT 10
Long time reader, 1st post!
What are your thoughts on coaches progressing up the years with their players? Do you think a player needs to experience as many different styles as they can throughout the years, so the coach moves on each year, or stays with the players and progresses with his own philosophies, tactices etc?
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Post by kookaburra on May 26, 2015 11:01:01 GMT 10
From my experience this can cause problems, especially when the coach has his favourites. 2 years maximum per team in the juniors.
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Post by tone75 on May 26, 2015 13:18:10 GMT 10
From my experience this can cause problems, especially when the coach has his favourites. 2 years maximum per team in the juniors. Totally agree with the above, coach has his fav's and parents pissing in his pocket.
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Post by tarzan on May 26, 2015 15:07:33 GMT 10
How many coaches stay with the same club for more than a year (plenty not even a year)? Perhaps its a moot point?
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Post by waduwino on May 28, 2015 22:19:11 GMT 10
In my view there are few coaches who can progress with the players as the players needs change from year to year. The exception being an experienced quality coach who has gone back down the age groups.
Even then I would not leave players with the same coach for more than a couple of years (and that has been my practice). It is unfortunate that most coaches do not warrant having players for more than a couple of minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 16:13:47 GMT 10
Found this forum quite interesting. Can i ask on what basis is the same coach a bad thing if the player is progressing? i hear this argument quite a bit form parents but would really like to understand the substance behind it.
An example is if your kid makes WSW or Sydney FC youth academy or even overseas clubs rarely do coaches change in youth ranks so kind of counters this current argument.
As for favourites? Every coach from division 8 in park football to EPL have their favourite players.. either technically gifted, listen to instruction adapt easy etc..
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Post by directfk on Feb 7, 2017 16:39:49 GMT 10
I can't comment about the coaches at that level as I have never been involved. At the lower junior levels of PL and PL2 I definitely believe 2 years maximum. These days it's very hard to find a coach who stays for 2 or more years. I was involved with a coach who only coached U/14s every year. He gave his opinion as the kids went through to the higher ages. He was quite a popular coach at this club. He has since retired.
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Post by Tiki Taka on Feb 7, 2017 17:39:34 GMT 10
The club that my son plays there is a 2 year maximum coaching policy. A coach can only coach the same group of kids for 2 years as the TD thinks they need change to develop.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 7:35:04 GMT 10
Interesting feedback guys,
Its an interesting topic which clearly has some pros and cons. I know a lot of clubs have a 2yr policy now at youth level but again is the opinion of change being a good thing Objective or subjective? Obviously our first analysis would be through personal experience.
So let me ask you this? If your son is clearly developing with a good quality coach and he does his 2 yrs and leaves the club for another. Would you take your son to the same coach elsewhere knowing he'll continue developing or would you leave him where he is hoping the next coach is just as good if not better?
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Post by directfk on Feb 8, 2017 10:23:55 GMT 10
obiwan,
Good question.
If your son follows the coach to another club you can bet your house on the fact that some peanut parent from the new club will start bagging your son because "he wouldn't have made the team if he didn't know the coach ". You can't follow a coach everywhere for your whole junior career. If your son is liked at his present club my advice would be to stay put. The new coach will probably do him good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 10:47:35 GMT 10
obiwan, Good question. If your son follows the coach to another club you can bet your house on the fact that some peanut parent from the new club will start bagging your son because "he wouldn't have made the team if he didn't know the coach ". You can't follow a coach everywhere for your whole junior career. If your son is liked at his present club my advice would be to stay put. The new coach will probably do him good. If parents knew at trials who are the coaches for the following year, it would help in decision making, unfortunately its too far broken.
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Post by tarzan on Feb 8, 2017 10:50:38 GMT 10
Or just take your kid to a northern club where you won't have to deal with all the other BS surrounding coaches and crazy parents......and simply enjoy playing football.
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Post by directfk on Feb 8, 2017 14:21:23 GMT 10
tarzan,
Ye right !
There's no difficult people on the northern side. Only east, west and south of Sydney.
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Post by tarzan on Feb 8, 2017 19:59:47 GMT 10
tarzan, Ye right ! There's no difficult people on the northern side. Only east, west and south of Sydney. Spot on! 😎
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Post by directfk on Feb 8, 2017 20:31:52 GMT 10
tarzan,
Thank you. Just confirming.
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