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Post by ballboy on Jul 8, 2012 21:45:23 GMT 10
thebomb, I'm with shinpad on this one. The main issue with you city folk is preconceived ideas before leaving the coast. If something happens during a game that you don't agree with, then it comes out as 'see I told you so'. Do the course, get some experience and then see how you go..
We get more positive personal comments than negative. The negative comments seem to come via forums such as these. It would seem that face to face confrontation by detractors is avoided once the game is complete. Why do these people bag out the refs during the game and then disappear afterwards?
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Post by shinpad on Jul 8, 2012 21:55:20 GMT 10
ballboy, Today we had another genius coach screaming " how can't you see the offside " when the opposition goal keeper was taking the goal kicks. Eventually one of the officials gave him a quick lesson on the laws of the game.
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Post by shinpad on Jul 8, 2012 22:02:40 GMT 10
thebum,
Thank's. Think what you like. Have a go, or shut up. Our association has lost a few junior referees this year due to people like yourself and some of your mates on this forum. A referee makes a mistake and all the critics come out. You mention "all the mistakes", what about all the good calls the referees make.
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Post by thebomb on Jul 8, 2012 22:31:49 GMT 10
thebum, Thank's. Think what you like. Have a go, or shut up. Our association has lost a few junior referees this year due to people like yourself and some of your mates on this forum. A referee makes a mistake and all the critics come out. You mention "all the mistakes", what about all the good calls the referees make. Wow name calling again That's fair enough You stoop to what ever level you need to make yourself feel good. But in the end shin head the Stats don't lie and unfortunately there are to many howlers to even remember the good, and yes shin head there are plenty of good calls. But good calls are to go both ways and sorry to upset you , yonmany bad calls go against visiting teams As for losing junior refs, don't go blaming others , it's obvious that your association are not doing enough to educate and encourage your juniors. Coming on a public forum and name calling people who have every right to express their opinions. Obviously a raw nerve has been Hit and you don't have the answers so your only line of defense is name calling Maybe that's why your junior refs a wailking out. I think to many hits to the head my friend or should i say to many hits to the shins. Eagerly awaiting your reply Will make interesting reading I'm sure, NOT Have a great week :-) :-)
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Post by thebomb on Jul 8, 2012 22:39:57 GMT 10
thebomb, I'm with shinpad on this one. The main issue with you city folk is preconceived ideas before leaving the coast. If something happens during a game that you don't agree with, then it comes out as 'see I told you so'. Do the course, get some experience and then see how you go.. We get more positive personal comments than negative. The negative comments seem to come via forums such as these. It would seem that face to face confrontation by detractors is avoided once the game is complete. Why do these people bag out the refs during the game and then disappear afterwards? So what your saying is, approach the refs after the game . I hope your not serious mate because that's what should never occur, once the game is over champ, it's over , confronting the officials IS a no no. That's why we have forums like this so people can then express their opinions and get feed back from others Remember that's what a forum is all about, It's people who take such offense st someone's opinion that they feel the need to try and defend the undefendable with name calling Sorry but I'm entitled to my opinion as you are yours :-) :-)
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Post by shinpad on Jul 8, 2012 22:42:20 GMT 10
I see people like yourself every week. You should be ashamed off yourself for carrying on the way you do about the referees. There is no raw nerve to hit. I just figured out you are a pest of the female type. As far as the referees quitting, I have nothing to do with that. I'm part of the association like all the referees here. Either way, a pest is a pest.
Have a great day tomorrow.
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Post by shinpad on Jul 8, 2012 22:50:24 GMT 10
AND, As far as name calling goes, you're no better. So grow up. NA, NA, NANANA.
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Post by ballboy on Jul 8, 2012 22:59:59 GMT 10
thebomb, from what I can see some of these forums are just a gathering of like minded rabble who get together and bag out the referees at any opportunity. How are you going to learn something if you don't ask? I'm not saying anything about abusing the referee after the game, but a civil question or two after the game might mean that your education is broadened a little. You may be able to approach the referee, after a suitable time after the game and ask a question. Eastern Suburbs Referees are running a new course for you to participate in this month. www.esrefs.com.au/Enrol and enjoy the course and then use your new found skills to put something back into football instead of trying to destroy it. While you doing it try and find out what method they use to educate and encourage juniors in how to handle some of the fools that frequent the games that they officiate on.
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Post by thebomb on Jul 8, 2012 23:03:52 GMT 10
I see people like yourself every week. You should be ashamed off yourself for carrying on the way you do about the referees. There is no raw nerve to hit. I just figured out you are a pest of the female type. As far as the referees quitting, I have nothing to do with that. I'm part of the association like all the referees here. Either way, a pest is a pest. Have a great day tomorrow. Na na naaaaa naa Sorry mate you don't see people like myself everyday. People like myself express opinions and keep it in par with facts and stats. So being ashamed of myself for pointing out the obvious . So take your Naaa naa baby talk back to class next week, as you obviously are still at school ant not educated enough tontake ones opinion for what it is. Ones opion only Enjoy your school holidays Little boy
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Post by thebomb on Jul 8, 2012 23:12:32 GMT 10
thebomb, from what I can see some of these forums are just a gathering of like minded rabble who get together and bag out the referees at any opportunity. How are you going to learn something if you don't ask? I'm not saying anything about abusing the referee after the game, but a civil question or two after the game might mean that your education is broadened a little. You may be able to approach the referee, after a suitable time after the game and ask a question. Eastern Suburbs Referees are running a new course for you to participate in this month. www.esrefs.com.au/Enrol and enjoy the course and then use your new found skills to put something back into football instead of trying to destroy it. While you doing it try and find out what method they use to educate and encourage junior s in how to handle some of the fools that frequent the games that they officiate on. No probs Hope to see you there Just for the record I have spoken to officials after the game and have had plenty decions explsined but you don't have senior officials at all venues and approaching a junior and questioning their decisions isnt the way to go Anyways That's life I will just have to beg to differ on this one
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Post by ballboy on Jul 9, 2012 8:42:35 GMT 10
thrbomb, I don't need to be there. I have been doing this job quite willingly for years and the hardest part about it is when you have good referees leaving after 3 or 4 years of admirable performances, generally for the same reason. Continual abuse from some yobbo on the hill. Very rarely, if not at all, do these people come from our area. By the way what do the people in the Orange Vests do during these out bursts? More than once they are the guilty party, how do we shut them up?
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Post by balltofeet on Jul 9, 2012 10:17:14 GMT 10
Bomb, I have to say I totally agree that to approach a referee after the game to ask questions of decisions made through the game is not really on. Be they correct decisions or not, a referee should not have to explain their actions and this can lead to an ugly precedent being set where a queue is required like a book signing promotion..... Not on. Some of these are young refs who are refs not diplomats. To the defenders... Now, in saying that we have all experienced the howler ref calls (exactly why this thread was started) that decide the outcome of a game. Is it coincidence that our official friends out west seem to be a focal point of said angst amongst the punters. I think not. There is not an ugly band of people from a particular team, club or age group. This is feedback from many (many) and covers both male and female football played in the fresh air out there. Sour grapes...... hmmmmm not when winning teams are also bemused. Sure, the officials can only do the best they can on the day however why does it appear that their best can sometimes be what is best for the local team, not the game. This is what said "many" people ask and, ask on a forum such as this to which is why a forum is opened. Ok, feel free to call me names also, I am thick skinned (a thick head - beat you to that one ) and welcome feedback as long as you can be mature about it and don't simply raise the defensive barriers. As always, my humble opinion.
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Post by thebomb on Jul 9, 2012 12:13:57 GMT 10
Bomb, I have to say I totally agree that to approach a referee after the game to ask questions of decisions made through the game is not really on. Be they correct decisions or not, a referee should not have to explain their actions and this can lead to an ugly precedent being set where a queue is required like a book signing promotion..... Not on. Some of these are young refs who are refs not diplomats. To the defenders... Now, in saying that we have all experienced the howler ref calls (exactly why this thread was started) that decide the outcome of a game. Is it coincidence that our official friends out west seem to be a focal point of said angst amongst the punters. I think not. There is not an ugly band of people from a particular team, club or age group. This is feedback from many (many) and covers both male and female football played in the fresh air out there. Sour grapes...... hmmmmm not when winning teams are also bemused. Sure, the officials can only do the best they can on the day however why does it appear that their best can sometimes be what is best for the local team, not the game. This is what said "many" people ask and, ask on a forum such as this to which is why a forum is opened. Ok, feel free to call me names also, I am thick skinned (a thick head - beat you to that one ) and welcome feedback as long as you can be mature about it and don't simply raise the defensive barriers. As always, my humble opinion. Well said balltofeet All this name calling and one picking on refs acusations was all bought about when a raw nerve was hit, this reaction from a couple of locals who can't handle facts & figures, refs will get it wrong and will get it it right, all my comments were never viewed without facts & figures and the facts and figures added to all the post over the past years lead to very 1 sided decisions in favour of the home side, now wether that's because the refs are being influenced by the local crowd or just the plain and simple home ground advantsge, call the 50/50 calls in favour of the home team can someone from this area please do us all a favour, document total free kicks for and against, document yellow/red cards for and against, and document who won or lost Then we can Annalise the facts and facts only, leaving out all the emotions. Anyways It's all good It's only a game after all P.s Shinpad guess what I'm doing right now Making salad for lunch, yes you were correct I'm a TOSSER Salad TOSSER to be exact. Plenty here if you want to join me :-) :-)
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Post by sydneysnow on Jul 9, 2012 13:42:26 GMT 10
Stupid parents come from every where even from Bathurst, south coast etc.. Doesn't matter where you are they are everywhere, however if a home team (anywhere) is being handed a advantage by ref you are least likely to find home patents complaining.
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Post by sydneysnow on Jul 9, 2012 13:43:02 GMT 10
Parents not patents
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