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Post by (•̃_•̃) the ball on Oct 13, 2011 15:54:58 GMT 10
This one is bit tricky. It happen in a Futsal game my son refereed on the weekend. I'm changing it slightly to make it outdoorsy An attacher is standing on the line with the ball in his hand for a throw in. The Assistant Referee is running behind him to get himself into position. As the thrower is about to throw the ball the AR accidentally bumps him in the back and the thrower ends up: case A. throwing the ball with one hand case B. (miss)throws the ball correctly but straight to an opponent What should the ref do? (in the actual case it was a Futsal "kick in". The ref kicked the back of the kicker's foot and clearly causing her to miss kick the ball to an opponent)
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Post by ballboy on Oct 13, 2011 20:04:34 GMT 10
A. Foul throw B. Play on
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Post by gwbulldogs1 on Oct 13, 2011 22:04:37 GMT 10
In both cases retake the throwin.
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Post by ballboy on Oct 14, 2011 6:41:55 GMT 10
gwbulldogs1,
In A). the throw was taken incorrectly, even though the AR became accidently involved it is still a foul throw, being taken with one hand.
In B). the throw was taken correctly.
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Post by (•̃_•̃) the ball on Oct 14, 2011 11:07:03 GMT 10
The term "foul throw" is commonly used by players and fans (and occasionally referees). Technically speaking a foul can only be committed on an opponent. I agree with ball boy as far as laws of the game go. The AR is part of the field of play and the accidental bump is no different to the thrower accidentally tripping over a bit overgrown patch of grass. However my common sense says it should be a retake. So if i was the referee i'd stop the game immediately for another reason, say run to my AR and ask him if he is OK then ask the players for a retake.
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Post by gwbulldogs1 on Oct 14, 2011 19:22:23 GMT 10
Ballboy & tricky symbol,
If the AR interferes with play (either intentionally or unintentionally) the attacking side should not be disadvantaged.
Retake the throw in both cases.
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Post by cindy on Oct 14, 2011 19:28:43 GMT 10
I agree with ball boy as far as laws of the game go. The AR is part of the field of play and the accidental bump is no different to the thrower accidentally tripping over a bit overgrown patch of grass. However my common sense says it should be a retake. So if i was the referee i'd stop the game immediately for another reason, say run to my AR and ask him if he is OK then ask the players for a retake. Couldn't agree with you more. As harsh as it sounds, by the letter of the law the AR (and the Referee for that matter) are just another part of the field. However, I would like to think that common sense (or Law 18 as it is often referred to) should prevail and that a retake would be the order of the day.
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Post by throwin on Oct 20, 2011 13:07:46 GMT 10
Try common sense. Retake the throwin.
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Post by (•̃_•̃) the ball on Oct 20, 2011 23:20:33 GMT 10
LAW 9:
The ball is in play at all other times, including when:
it rebounds off either the referee or an assistant referee when they are on the fi eld of play
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Post by artie on Oct 21, 2011 10:22:40 GMT 10
LAW 9: The ball is in play at all other times, including when: it rebounds off either the referee or an assistant referee when they are on the fi eld of play You are 100% correct and I have removed my posts An apology to Cindy also who was correct Ill just go eat my pie now
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Post by scarecrow on Oct 21, 2011 16:08:40 GMT 10
LAW 9: The ball is in play at all other times, including when: it rebounds off either the referee or an assistant referee when they are on the fi eld of play You are 100% correct and I have removed my posts An apology to Cindy also who was correct Ill just go it my pie now Even the best referees make mistakes Artie!!!
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Post by artie on Oct 21, 2011 17:10:20 GMT 10
You are 100% correct and I have removed my posts An apology to Cindy also who was correct Ill just go it my pie now Even the best referees make mistakes Artie!!! Hahahha
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Post by stepover on Oct 31, 2011 21:25:45 GMT 10
throwin is always incorrect! Doesn't know any other way.
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Post by throwin on Oct 31, 2011 22:23:59 GMT 10
I would take it again. When you are refereeing bone heads and neanderthals it's sometimes handy to use your common sense.
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