jabrack
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Post by jabrack on Sept 2, 2014 13:42:15 GMT 10
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Post by tyrion on Sept 2, 2014 21:56:03 GMT 10
Get your boys playin ing on grass summer football comps , stay away from FNSW run rubbish on hard timber and concrete floors.
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jabrack
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Post by jabrack on Sept 2, 2014 22:25:47 GMT 10
Get your boys playin ing on grass summer football comps , stay away from FNSW run rubbish on hard timber and concrete floors. Well there are no concrete floors in FNSW and don't know why you would call it rubbish? Grass summer football is great, but its just more of the same without the incremental improvement you get from playing futsal. “During my childhood in Portugal, all we played was futsal. The small playing area helped me improve my close control, and whenever I played futsal I felt free. If it wasn't for futsal, I wouldn't be the player I am today." - Cristiano Ronaldo
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Post by tarzan on Sept 2, 2014 22:47:22 GMT 10
Futsals fine though it does tend to produce more injuries because of the hard surface. The ideal is 5 a side on artificial grass .....same benefit of touches on the ball but on a softer surface.
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jabrack
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Post by jabrack on Sept 2, 2014 22:59:27 GMT 10
Futsals fine though it does tend to produce more injuries because of the hard surface. The ideal is 5 a side on artificial grass .....same benefit of touches on the ball but on a softer surface. Sorry that is the proverbial old wives tale. FIFA conducted a comprehensive study of injuries in the Futsal and Football World Cups: "the risk of a time-loss injury per player match was lower in futsal than in football" and "the location and type of injuries were similar between the two ways of playing football” Prof. Jiri Dvorak, FIFA's Chief Medical Officer Source: bjsm.bmj.com/content/44/15/1089.full
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Post by tarzan on Sept 2, 2014 23:23:42 GMT 10
Futsals fine though it does tend to produce more injuries because of the hard surface. The ideal is 5 a side on artificial grass .....same benefit of touches on the ball but on a softer surface. Sorry that is the proverbial old wives tale. FIFA conducted a comprehensive study of injuries in the Futsal and Football World Cups: "the risk of a time-loss injury per player match was lower in futsal than in football" and "the location and type of injuries were similar between the two ways of playing football” Prof. Jiri Dvorak, FIFA's Chief Medical Officer Source: bjsm.bmj.com/content/44/15/1089.fullThere are a few flaws in that argument: 1)Comparing just one tournament against one other tournament is very limited and could not be deemed as conclusive. 2) I was comparing 5 a side on grass ( not 11 a side) to 5 a side on a hard surface....i have no doubt that playing on a hard surface would put greater strain on lower limbs than artificial or natural grass. 2) I was referring to youth football, where players are going through growth spurts and are much more susceptible to injury. 4) I know several parents who don't allow their kids to play Futsal because of previous history of impact injuries. 5) I note there is a qualification - "a time loss injury" so even this very limited study is limited in how it defines an injury. Having said that, no great problem with Futsal, just suggest the same game on grass would be better from both a development perspective and from an injury perspective.
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Post by tyrion on Sept 3, 2014 0:52:55 GMT 10
Get your boys playin ing on grass summer football comps , stay away from FNSW run rubbish on hard timber and concrete floors. Well there are no concrete floors in FNSW and don't know why you would call it rubbish? Grass summer football is great, but its just more of the same without the incremental improvement you get from playing futsal. “During my childhood in Portugal, all we played was futsal. The small playing area helped me improve my close control, and whenever I played futsal I felt free. If it wasn't for futsal, I wouldn't be the player I am today." - Cristiano Ronaldo Hard court football is rubbish in my opinion , I am all for SSG on grass or artificial grass but please don't try to sell me the "benefits " of futsal. And btw there are still concrete courts been used in FNSW comps.
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chris
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Post by chris on Sept 3, 2014 7:06:48 GMT 10
The term 'childhood' may seem like semantics but playing futsal as an eight year old is VERY different on a body than when playing as a fifteen year old. Twelve should really be the oldest to use futsal as a skill training tool. Common sense alone is enough to see the impact on a bigger body on such surfaces at such fast movements...enough to make a parent shudder.
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Post by fillet on Sept 3, 2014 7:53:30 GMT 10
So why don't basketball kids don't get any problems playing on the same courts all year round?
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Post by tarzan on Sept 3, 2014 8:07:38 GMT 10
So why don't basketball kids don't get any problems playing on the same courts all year round? They do!
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Post by fillet on Sept 3, 2014 8:13:19 GMT 10
Having a kid playing b'ball for last 8 years, haven't seen any serious issues Tarzan resulting from timber/hard floors.
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Post by tarzan on Sept 3, 2014 9:25:05 GMT 10
Having a kid playing b'ball for last 8 years, haven't seen any serious issues Tarzan resulting from timber/hard floors. You qualified it with "serious". I think common sense suggests that running on a softer surface is better for you than a hard surface. I suspect your local podiatrist and Physio may have views on this. It's not just the one-off serious injury that is the problem it's the ongoing impact of playing on a hard surface that is a bigger problem. Don't get me wrong Futsal is a great game...I think there is now a better alternative with all the artificial grass courts around.
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jabrack
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Post by jabrack on Sept 3, 2014 9:40:11 GMT 10
So why don't basketball kids don't get any problems playing on the same courts all year round? They do! What about: Tennis Volleyball Handball Squash Indoor Hockey All played on hard surfaces? You would think that in a very litigious society like the US, basketball would have moved to a soft surface, away from timber floors, if there was any real risk.
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jabrack
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Post by jabrack on Sept 3, 2014 9:47:14 GMT 10
The term 'childhood' may seem like semantics but playing futsal as an eight year old is VERY different on a body than when playing as a fifteen year old. Twelve should really be the oldest to use futsal as a skill training tool. Common sense alone is enough to see the impact on a bigger body on such surfaces at such fast movements...enough to make a parent shudder. Interesting comment since a lot of Brazilians predominately only play futsal until their mid teens. I know a former A-League (and current Futsalroo) that didn't play outdoor till he was 18. “During my childhood in Portugal, all we played was futsal. The small playing area helped me improve my close control, and whenever I played futsal I felt free. If it wasn't for futsal, I wouldn't be the player I am today." - Cristiano Ronaldo "I started playing Futsal when I was 4 years old and most of the moves I use come from playing Futsal. I played Futsal until 13 or 14 years of age before I began playing regular soccer." – Robinho Finally Jurgen Klingsman has just mandated futsal for the 13-14 year olds academies. www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/03/16/02/35/140129-academy-futsal
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jabrack
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Post by jabrack on Sept 3, 2014 9:51:16 GMT 10
Well there are no concrete floors in FNSW and don't know why you would call it rubbish? Grass summer football is great, but its just more of the same without the incremental improvement you get from playing futsal. “During my childhood in Portugal, all we played was futsal. The small playing area helped me improve my close control, and whenever I played futsal I felt free. If it wasn't for futsal, I wouldn't be the player I am today." - Cristiano Ronaldo Hard court football is rubbish in my opinion , I am all for SSG on grass or artificial grass but please don't try to sell me the "benefits " of futsal. And btw there are still concrete courts been used in FNSW comps. I know every court that FNSW played State and Premier League on and none are concrete. What facility are you referring to? As for me trying to sell you on the benefits of futsal, sure don't listen to me. But would you listen to: Jurgen Klingsman Pele Messi Ronaldo Xavi Robinho Oscar
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